I have now read the first five books of Robert Jordan’s The Wheel of Time, as well as about half of the prequel novel New Spring, and it’s been fascinating to watch the complexities of the story, and the world, unfold. There are quite a few mysteries that it may take a long time to get any resolution on—there are still nine more books to go, after all—but one thing in particular has caught my attention lately. There is something about Aes Sedai agelessness that just doesn’t add up. So I decided this week to go back through my reading and see if I could puzzle out the mystery of Aes Sedai agelessness, and how the Power really does—or does not—affect the age and appearance of a channeler.
I am never quite sure how to imagine the ageless look of the Aes Sedai. When Perrin observes Moiraine in Chapter 3 of The Great Hunt, he can’t “put any age at all to her, with her face too smooth for many years and her dark eyes too wise for youth.” And when Moiraine observes Gitara in Chapter 2 of New Spring, she considers that Gitara’s “smooth, ageless face was the mark of Aes Sedai, to those who knew. To those who did not know, and many did not, her [white] hair would have added to the confusion.”
We learn from these quotes, and many others, that the ageless look of the Aes Sedai is unmistakable if one knows to look for it. The look is obvious enough that the Aes Sedai in Canluum can be instantly picked out, causing a whole crowd of people to move out of their way despite the fact that few could be staring that closely into their faces in such a situation, and that there is no suggestion that they are wearing their shawls as they move about the streets. On the other hand, it is generally suggested everywhere that those who do not have experience with Aes Sedai would not necessarily realize that there was anything odd about a woman’s visage at all, except in the case that she has gray or white hair. The glossary at the end of The Dragon Reborn also tells us that gray hairs are the only sign of age that will show on an Aes Sedai.
It is curious to me that the effect of long use of the Power could be so striking and yet so subtle at the same time. It also appears to be different in Aes Sedai than it is in other female channelers, as is best seen with the descriptions of Amys.
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Amys’s youthfully smooth features beneath that white hair leaped out at her for what they were, something very close to Aes Sedai agelessness. (The Shadow Rising, Chapter 23)
Even Amys, long white hair only emphasizing the not quite Aes Sedai agelessness of her face, looked amazed at the flood.” (The Fires of Heaven, Chapter 49)
We know that use of the One Power slows aging and gives long life, and it appears to be that the stronger the channeler, the longer they live, at least roughly speaking. Hence, Amys has the same youthful look and white hair that Gitara has… almost. There is something different about the look of the Aes Sedai that has not been made entirely clear by the narrative, and seemingly is not entirely clear even to those who observe it. There is no mention of Jorin, the Windfinder Elayne meets onboard the Wavedancer, having an ageless look, although this might be because she is young.
Adding to the complexity of the puzzle is the change that happens in Aes Sedai who have been stilled. This is first observed by Aviendha and Egwene while questioning Amico, who was stilled in her confrontation with Egwene, and then explored in more depth when Siuan and Leane are stilled by Elaida and her cohorts. They have lost the agelessness of the Aes Sedai, but more than that, their features have actually changed, to the point where it is difficult for those who know them to recognize them. Siuan considers the change more specifically while in Lugard.
She did not really look as she had as a young woman; the changes maturity had made were still there, but softened into youth. (The Fires of Heaven, Chapter 11)
So what is the difference between Aes Sedai agelessness and the youthful look that other channelers obtain in the series? Why does being stilled make one look younger and yet different than one looked in youth? And for goodness’s sake, what does Aes Sedai agelessness even look like?
Let’s tackle these questions in order.
From what we’ve seen so far, the Aes Sedai do approach channeling differently than other cultures. Windfinders, for example, seem to focus only on channeling Water and Air—Jorin, at least, has almost no ability with Earth and Fire until she and Elayne start teaching each other. The Wise Ones seem more interdisciplinary, but they also appear to have specific needs for their channeling, mostly cultural and survival-based. So it is possible that there is something about the nature of the way the Aes Sedai study and employ saidar that produces an effect on their features that’s different from what other channelers experience. Maybe they employ the five elements more completely, or in a more complex manner, than others. They also seem, anecdotally, to use channeling more frequently for casual purposes—moving furniture, heating water, cleaning, etc.—so it’s possible that they are just exposed to saidar more regularly and consistently than even strong channelers amongst the Sea Folk or the Aiel.
But if that were the case, one would assume that the Forsaken would also have the same ageless look as modern Aes Sedai. Perhaps they do and are merely disguising that look, which they would have to do in order to pass as ordinary modern people as they establish themselves around the world in preparation for Tarmon Gai’don. However, there have been moments when they have been observed without their knowledge, such as when Birgitte and Nynaeve go to spy on Moghedien spying on the others, and there has still been no mention of any kind of ageless channeler look, even among the women.
There is also the vision Rand sees of the ancient Aes Sedai while he is living through his ancestors’ lives in Rhuidean to consider.
Women with hair so white it almost seemed transparent. Ageless faces with skin that looked as if the wind might tear it. He had heard the years did not touch Aes Sedai. How old must these two be? (The Shadow Rising, Chapter 25)
Although the word “ageless” is used here, it also doesn’t seem to be the same kind of effect that the modern Aes Sedai experience. Cadsuane is the oldest living Aes Sedai of the modern age, and she is not described as being worn down by age the way the women in Rand’s vision are. Similarly, when Tamra dies, Moiraine observes that Aes Sedai don’t “grow feeble” with the years and that death from age still comes “in apparent full good health.” (New Spring, Chapter 14). These Aes Sedai have grown feeble; they are worn down by their long lives, and even appear to need blankets while in the Waste. Perhaps these Aes Sedai—who were ostensibly born in the Age of Legends and lived through the Breaking—are simply so much more powerful than modern Aes Sedai that their lives were that much longer, to the point where age shows itself in other ways than graying hair. However if we operate on the assumption that a longer lifespan is not enough to explain the discrepancy, I find that there is only one clear difference between the modern Aes Sedai of the White Tower and all the other channelers we have encountered thus far in the series.
And that is the Oath Rod.
Perhaps this is a leap, but the Oath Rod is such a powerful ter’angreal that an oath sworn upon it is physically and immutably binding. Stilling, however, removes the oaths somehow, presumably because the ter’angreal that is the Oath Rod is designed specifically to be used by channelers—or should I say, on channelers. So when Siuan and Leane lose their ability to channel, they also lose their saidar-reliant connection to the oaths. They also lose their ageless look at the same time.
Coincidence? Maybe. Correlation doesn’t necessarily equal causation. But it’s a plausible theory. After all, the effects of stilling aren’t that well known amongst the Aes Sedai. It is a harsh punishment, reserved for only the worst crimes, and it is difficult for women to find the will to live after their connection to saidar has been taken from them. Most are sent away from the Tower as well, so even if they hang on, there are no Aes Sedai around to observe them. A woman punished by stilling certainly isn’t going to be sending back reports to the White Tower that she’s lost her Aes Sedai look, or that she has discovered that she can lie. And while burning out can happen occasionally to women who wear the shawl and have taken the Three Oaths, it’s far more likely to happen to wilders or younger women who are less experienced in handling the power. As we see in The Shadow Rising, Sheriam and the other Salidar Aes Sedai are confused by the change in Siuan and Leane’s appearances, though Myrelle mentions that she has read accounts of such effects. It is also suggested that the changes in Siuan and Leane happened more quickly because of the treatment they received at Elaida’s hands, so it may be that, under normal circumstances, the ageless look would fade slowly, just as it doesn’t come on the same moment a woman touches the Oath Rod.
And we must also remember that many ter’angreal are not used by the modern Aes Sedai the way they were used in the Age of Legends. The Aes Sedai aren’t even sure what many of their original uses were. Perhaps the ageless effect has some purpose they, and we, don’t understand. Or perhaps it is an understandable side-effect of the Rod’s intended use.
The only evidence I can find that really goes against my theory is Egwene’s third trip through the three-arched ter’angreal during her Accepted Trials. She experiences herself as the Amyrlin Seat, and sees the ageless look on her own features. And yet she is also aware that she never held the Oath Rod and is not bound by the Three Oaths. This would seem to suggest that there is no correlation between the ageless look and the Oath Rod. However, while the future vision of the ter’angreal does seem to hold some truths, I don’t think they are all literal and the experience may be a blend of possible futures or even include the user’s own interpretation and expectation of events. So it’s a point against my theory, but I’m not ready to abandon it just yet.
Only time will tell if I am on the right track here, and all the long-standing fans of the series may be chuckling at me right now. But I’ll finish up my musings for now, and circle back to the question of what the agelessness looks like. And I’m sorry, but the whole idea of “mature eyes” is just too nebulous for me. It sounds beautiful and poetic, and is often used in fiction when describing a character who has been through a lot, but I don’t really know what that looks like in a face that is both youthful and serene.
There is no mention of the ageless Aes Sedai look in The Eye of the World as far as I could find or remember. This may be because we don’t spend enough time with anyone who has enough knowledge of the Aes Sedai to spot it. Or, it may be because Jordan hadn’t conceived the idea yet. But the initial mention of the phenomenon we encounter in The Great Hunt gives perhaps the clearest description of the effect.
Yet they, too, had a sameness, one that was only obvious when they stood together like this. To a woman, they seemed ageless. From this distance he would have called them all young, but closer he knew they would be like Moiraine. Young-seeming yet not, smooth-skinned but with faces too mature for youth, eyes too knowing. (Chapter 2)
That mention of maturity seems relevant, especially when put alongside Siuan’s observation that the changes maturity had made in her had been softened to youth. For a while I imagined the look as being akin to early/mid 2000s CGI de-aging, like we saw on Xavier and Magneto in the flashback scene of X-Men: The Last Stand. Pretty good, but also terribly uncanny. But upon reflection, I think the effect might even be subtler than that. To me, ageless Aes Sedai faces look like they’ve been put through a beauty filter; just a bit blurred, a bit unnatural compared to what skin and eyes actually look like. The thing about beauty filters is that many people can be fooled by them, but if you know what they are and what to look for, they become obvious. They also remove some of the uniqueness of human features, resulting in the sort of sameness that Rand is talking about.
So that’s it, my conclusions on the mystery of Aes Sedai agelessness, and the long-term effects of channeling. Those who have finished the series will know how close I’ve gotten. In the meantime, I’m going to keep reading. After all, the mystery is half the fun.
Join us back here next week for Chapters 21 and 22 of New Spring, in which I will try to remember how to spell Malkier/Malkieri. If I mastered Myrddraal, I can master this, right?
Sylas K Barrett is a liar, he totally had to look up how to spell Myrddraal again. But he’s added Malkier and Malkieri to his spellcheck, so here’s to living in hope.
I don’t think Sylas reads the comments, but there is one clue that he’s come across that he didn’t include here:
The physical sensation of being bound by the oath rod. When Moiraine takes her Oaths, the sensation is described as a “tightening of the skin” – which seems very much like it would have the wrinkle-smoothing effect that’s part of the agelessness.
Very Good, Sylas!
Barrett logró darse cuenta de esto mucho antes que yo, que no fue hasta La Corona de Espadas, pero ciertamente las pistas estaban ahí. Aunque creo que RJ no desarrolló bien el concepto de la eternidad hasta el 3er libro y en mi primera lectura, leía lo más rápido posible, con lo que he apreciado mucho la relectura.
Lo más probable es que la serie de TV se olvidará por completo de todo esto (excepto los juramentos) para cortar subtramas, aunque será interesante ver el efecto dominó provocado por esto.
Finalmente, para apreciar mejor a la serie de TV, se debe tener en cuenta que son cosas completamente diferentes, y que el programa deberá ser capaz de sostenerse por sí mismo.
I don’t think Jordan was terribly precise with a lot of things in the early books where he hadn’t fully fleshed out some of the worldbuilding, which makes Atlas’ job harder.
I always thought the ageless look sounded a lot like a face lift. Something we barely notice anymore, but hardly natural.
Impressively deducted at this point. Whenever you finish and go back to actually read these comments know how impressed I am that you already got this (almost) right.
That was quite the…deductive leap.
You’ll see more as you progress in the series, but I think at least the look of the agelessness is generally thought of like having Botox or face fillers/lifting done.
I always imagined the Aes Sedai ageless look to be reminiscent of the effects of botox. Easy to miss at first and by the unaccustomed eye, but increasingly easy to spot as the effect grows more pronounced and when you’ve seen multiple cases of it.
In this age of TikTok and social media, I have also likened the agelessness to camera filters — the ones that smooth out the wrinkles, remove pores, and slightly alter face shape.
Like too many face lifts. The skin is unnaturally tight. Joan Rivers used to say her face was lifted so many times the cleft in her chin was really her navel. Or perhaps some other nearby body part.
I picture the Aes Sedai who have sworn on the binder as having a face that looks like Dolly Parton.
Nice job Sylas! Given that he’s reading New Spring at an earlier point of the narrative than most of us would have done (the novel version came out between CoT and KoD) he’s seen a lot of clues that are not made obvious until later.
He’s also correctly noted that the ancient Aes Sedai at the Founding of Rhuidean were very different from the oldest Aes Sedai at the end of the Third Age, without knowing the reason. If he knew their real ages it would give it away. Cadsuane, Meilyn and Gitara are at or close to 300. The ancient AS at Rhuidean were probably closer to 700!
Info on the binders from Semirhage’s and Sammael’s POVs in the next book should clue him in.
I always figured ‘knowing / mature eyes’ meant something like fine crows-feet around them — just enough to create a clashing impression with the rest of the smooth skin.
SPOILER:
It’s the oath rod that makes the aes sedai look that way. It’s so that people will know that the woman is bound by oaths she cannot break.
It also artificially lessens the lifetime of someone who can use the power. In later books they mention a plan to allow the women to “retire” from official duties, but still remain attached to the tower.
Great deduction!
About Egwene’s experience through the Ter’angreal: since there was a lot of interference from the dream ring ter’angreal, could it be that her memory of never having held the oath rod comes from “current” Egwene other than her Amyrlin self from the testing?
Can’t say for sure, I really gotta take a good look at that chapter again.
Nice. :) I was actually thinking that it was too early for you to write this essay but it’s also fun to watch you to parse things out.
Regarding mature eyes, I have to admit it’s a trope I love, and even use in my own writing (soulful eyes, sorrowful eyes, eyes that show some quality of the person) but I’ve never really seen it in real life lol.
Re: Egwene
I think the Acceptatron experiences are like Tel’aran’rhiod… colored by both the Pattern and by the participant. In other words, novice Egwene believes that the agelessness comes from the Power and has not figured out the truth, so in the logic of her 3rd vision that belief becomes the rule.
Mature eyes is definitely a thing you can see and notice in combat vets, the guys that we 18-22 in Iraq and Afghanistan for multiple tours.
Given Jordan’s experiences in Vietnam it makes sense he saw that as well.
Also noted it in younger people who literally or essentially lived on their own from a young age due to parents issues or being alt life or lgbt.
Oh you’re soooooo close to spot on. By the time you finish the books it all makes a LOT more sense and you’re like 99.999% right. There’s a lot to unpack with that Oath Rod in later books.
It’s the Oath Rod.
So true, Sabra_ray! Going further back, look at photos of combat soldiers from WW2. They look like they’re late 20’s/early 30’s or even older, when the average age was closer to 20. That’s sort of how I imagine Aes Sedai eyes, in a face that is filtered/botoxed as others have commented.
Has anyone considered that they don’t get married or have children, and this might account for serene, unwrinkled countenances?
Whenever I picture Aes Sedai in my head I automatically envision the makeup effect of Kirsten Dunst in ‘Interview with a Vampire’. It’s a masterful job of capturing eternal youth within the face while the eyes contain immense wisdom. Aes Sedai should have a porcelain doll quality to their faces…unnaturally youthful which would be easily recognizable and unsettling to those who really look.
I was confused for a bit, had to look back and confirm that the author had only read 5.5 books… because I was PRETTY sure that this was definitively answered later in the series… I haven’t read any TWOT in probably 20 years (I haven’t gotten to the Sanderson novels) but was pretty involved with the usenet fandom in the 90’s… and was pretty sure that this was an answered question…
I have to revert to a discussion in one of Larry Niven’s short stories to reflect the comment about the eyes. The story was discussing those who used booster-spice for longevity. The description of the individuals resolved to the fact that the older individuals, despite looking younger, were much smoother in the way they moved around a room, and handled issues with balance. The increased length of experience made these individuals much more familiar with their surroundings, they didn’t bump into things, they were more graceful, and sometimes they approached things slower based on having an aged body at one point that had returned to a younger state. Just a thought.
We also know from the POV of the Forsaken that the oath-rod is actually a punishment device for criminal channelers. In the AOL there were many more ‘binders’ as Sammael refers to them, and of Graendals surprise of learning from Messaana how the AS use it as an Oath Rod…
One thing they also reveal is that it significantly shortens the life-span of a channeler… Which matches with the hints that Windfinders and Wise Ones, unless injured or otherwise killed, can get significantly older than AS…
Elaine also discovers that, as the oldest known AS, Cadsuane, is 295 by the end of the story, whereas Alivia is 414, and does not show any of the agelessness of an AS…
I seem to recall Egwene saying something about the “Ageless” effect being caused by the oath rod…
My theory is that what people are seeing and understanding as a hard to figure out age is simply the product of the strain of holding to those oaths. It binds to one’s abiliry to use the one power, and uses it to fuel the binding, in a never ending loop. Losing the ability to channel therby dries up the self repair and renewal mechanism, and releases the strain, causing the preservative effects of channeling to show through, as was shown to happen to Leanne and Siuan.
If it were possible to bind one who could not channel, I suspect the lifespan severing effects woule have been more severe, and more immediately visible, and much more deadly without that prerequesite . It really is just a difference between a smooth face and eyes with little crowes feet confusing the issue. The brain tries to immmediately pigeonhole strangers. and having the dichotomy making it nigh impossible to be certain of the age group, and likelihood of hostility or friendliness confuses, and in turn confuses the reactions and memories, leading to the “Ageless” description.
As for the women in the vision at Rhuidean, there is no timeline showing when Aes Sedai began binding themselves with oath rods. It may have been upon the breaking, or shortly after, and likely would have included those who were older to begin with, but stil.l welll preserved by the use of the one power, and the clock starts ticking when you take the oath, limiting your lifespan only after that point…350 (My mind screams the idea that 365 was the intention… years, five or take, from whatever age they were when they took the oath, whether 40, or 400 years old…..or maybe, finding themselves without shelter and support of their fellow channelers, separated by a wall of mountains from the White Tower, that they took other oaths on another of the rods, since several have been known to exist, for whatever reason they felt important enough for it..
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When were the Oaths implemented? Were they all done at the same time? If not, when were each put in place?
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From the BBoBA: “These oaths were not always required, but various events before and since the Breaking caused them to be necessary. The Second Oath was the first adopted after the War of the Shadow.”
And according to Sheriam, “Once, Aes Sedai were not required to swear oaths. It was known what Aes Sedai were and what they stood for, and there was no need for more. Many of us wish it were so still. But the Wheel turns, and the times change. That we swear these oaths, that we are known to be bound, allows the nations to deal with us without fearing that we will throw up our own power, the One Power, against them. Between the Trolloc Wars and the War of the Hundred Years we made these choices, and because of them the White Tower still stands, and we can still do what we can against the Shadow.”
So we have the Second Oath was adopted first, and the other two added between the Trolloc Wars and the War of a Hundred Years (if we believe Sheriam, anyway, and I can see no reason for a lie on this one).
I think you’re spot on with the beauty filter. I imagine the “mature eyes” as being something like the 1000 yard stare. They’ve SEEN things and that youthful look of blissful ignorance is gone. More like a specific facial expression than a particular feature of the eyes.